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ShadowOfYourOwnSelf A Shadow Of Your Own Self
Number of posts : 6 Age : 38 Location : Nowhere Point System : Registration date : 2008-12-26
| Subject: Lyrical concept Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:54 am | |
| Has anyone else thought about the lyrical concept in Morten's albums? It all seems to be following the same story in my view, all the way from Widows Weeds until now... He always writes about a dead lover, that he's a sinner and a shadow of his own self, that his life has been ruined by the sirens, about depression, his inner demons never leaving him alone, suicide and the afterlife.
Now, this is merely a theory, and it may very well be totally wrong, mind you, but if you puzzle all his lyrics together, it can seem as if he had a girlfriend, and another girl tempted him and seduced him. Because of this, his girlfriend was devastated and took her own life. Morten was of course totally ruined by this, by longing, by extreme guilt, by a wish to meet her again. The sirens, which he has named his band from, is a very good metaphor for a temptress ruining one's life. It all makes very much sense if you read the lyrics with this in mind, and such an extreme episode would also be a very strong motivational factor for making art about it, to her memory, and to keep him going on, always stuck in this state.
Any thoughts? Like I said, just a theory. There are other theories as well, there's a guy on the Tristania forums who thinks the whole Beyond the Veil album is about american suicide cults, for example. Many different possibilites. | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
Number of posts : 1513 Age : 30 Location : United States Job/hobbies : Student Humor : Chelsea Handler Style Point System : Registration date : 2008-11-23
| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:25 pm | |
| According to Morten in interview he wrote a story and the lyrics he written is based off of the story which after being fired from Tristania he kept the same story going with Sirenia. | |
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Death_Dies_Hard The Other Side
Number of posts : 252 Age : 39 Location : Texas Job/hobbies : Tattoo Artist/Piercer Humor : Sarcastic Point System : Registration date : 2008-12-13
| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:26 pm | |
| He has also said that some songs are worte to match the dark tones of the music. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:35 am | |
| - And2DieIsEasy wrote:
- According to Morten in interview he wrote a story and the lyrics he written is based off of the story which after being fired from Tristania he kept the same story going with Sirenia.
his concepts are difficoult to understand | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:12 am | |
| I do like your theory through. Morten is hard to figure out. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:25 am | |
| You should know very well Morten as person before trying to understand the concept. | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:54 am | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:07 am | |
| yes
then, what is that door? | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:53 am | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:25 am | |
| yes in the lyrics he keeps on talking about doors and keys | |
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SparklingEyesInMyMirror The Other Side
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 pm | |
| I think it has to deal with obstacles which you can't figure out on how to overcome them. | |
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Death_Dies_Hard The Other Side
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:44 pm | |
| But when he talks about doors and keys it usually reletes to his metal state. And if you notice its always when he is talking about death. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:17 am | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:53 pm | |
| He has metion seven a few times too. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:57 am | |
| yes I think it's because
he was born on the 4th december 1977
4th december= 4 /12 = 4+1+2= 7
Then 77 in his year of birth | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:49 am | |
| Has anyone notice how often he talks about summer? | |
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Malingraux A Shadow Of Your Own Self
Number of posts : 14 Age : 37 Location : The Deepest Ocean Job/hobbies : Making Explosives Humor : Awfull/None Point System : Registration date : 2009-01-02
| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:01 am | |
| Lolllll XDDD
Good theories!!
Answering with my opinion to the first comment, I'll say (because I've some background to talk about as I like making songs, kind of goth metal with choirs and so, in FLStudio 7) that you don't have to live a great story in your life to write music. So perhaps yes, he is writting about his own experience in life and frustrated love, but perhaps not...
What you have to do when you write a song is to have plenty of imagination, think about a place and a story (maybe he likes Sirens and Sumers and that's all...). For example Nightwish talks about Night and the Ocean all the time, perhaps for the same reason. Autumn is always talking about Rivers and Autumns...
Just think of that, he probably only talks about he likes, places, weather, seasons, feelings, and mithology, everything coming only from his his imagination, and not from past he has lived... | |
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Malingraux A Shadow Of Your Own Self
Number of posts : 14 Age : 37 Location : The Deepest Ocean Job/hobbies : Making Explosives Humor : Awfull/None Point System : Registration date : 2009-01-02
| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:03 am | |
| And doors...yes they can be obstacles in your life, but they also can be a moment when you've to take a decision, that's why he talks for example of "seven keys" and "nine doors"...don't you think? | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:04 am | |
| As a song writer I understand the imagination part. And since Morten has said in past interviews he just writes what fits the music your probably right. | |
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Changed? Darling Maurice
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:07 am | |
| But at the same time i wonder if any of it is base upon stuff he has went through. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:08 am | |
| trying to understand the meaning of Morten's lyrics is the favourite game of me and my friend Francesco.
We noticed that he talks about: -doors -keys -summer -demons -the number 7 -the numer 9 -rivers -reapers -sirens -fire
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:10 am | |
| - Malingraux wrote:
- And doors...yes they can be obstacles in your life, but they also can be a moment when you've to take a decision, that's why he talks for example of "seven keys" and "nine doors"...don't you think?
yes.. and, since the doors are 9 and the keys are 7, it means there are some decisions he can't take | |
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Death_Dies_Hard The Other Side
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:14 pm | |
| sirens and rivers make sense. But the others I wonder about. | |
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PaleEnchantress Banned
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| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:46 am | |
| the number 7 is easy to explain : Morten's date of birth
the doors and the keys can have lots of explains | |
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Ene A Shadow Of Your Own Self
Number of posts : 30 Age : 30 Location : Finland Point System : Registration date : 2009-02-26
| Subject: Re: Lyrical concept Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:48 pm | |
| Morten's lyrics are wierd, never really understandet them lol, maybe thats what he wanted! Though i hate the everlasting word ''siren'', and they got the worst songtitle ever, Sirens of The Seven Seas, thats sounds like some pirates lol | |
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